50 Elizabeth II, A.D. 2001, Canada

Journals of the Senate

1st Session, 37th Parliament

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Issue 69

Thursday, November 8, 2001
1:30 p.m.

The Honourable Daniel Hays, Speaker

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The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Bacon, Banks, Beaudoin, Biron, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Cochrane, Comeau, Cools, Corbin, Day, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Finestone, Finnerty, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Graham, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Joyal, Kelleher, Keon, Kinsella, LaPierre, Lapointe, Lynch-Staunton, Mahovlich, Milne, Moore, Morin, Murray, Oliver, Pearson, Phalen, Prud'homme, Rivest, Robichaud, Roche, Rompkey, Setlakwe, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Watt, Wiebe, Wilson

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Bacon, Banks, Beaudoin, Biron, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, *Callbeck, *Carney, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Cochrane, Comeau, *Cook, Cools, Corbin, *Cordy, Day, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Finestone, Finnerty, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Graham, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Joyal, Kelleher, *Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, LaPierre, Lapointe, *Lawson, *LeBreton, *Léger, Lynch-Staunton, Mahovlich, Milne, Moore, Morin, Murray, *Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Phalen, Prud'homme, Rivest, *Robertson, Robichaud, Roche, Rompkey, Setlakwe, *St. Germain, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Watt, Wiebe, Wilson

PRAYERS

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

As an expression of respect to Canada's War Veterans and War dead, tributes were paid.

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., tabled the following:

Documents concerning the Cormorant Search and Rescue Helicopters, from the Assistant Deputy Minister (Materiel) of the Department of National Defence, further to his appearance before the Committee of the Whole on October 30, 2001. —Sessional Paper No. 1/37-566S.

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Hervieux-Payette, P.C., Joint Chair of the Standing Joint Committee for the Scrutiny of Regulations, tabled its Third Report (Royal Canadian Mounted Police Regulations 1988).—Sessional Paper No. 1/37- 567S.

The Honourable Senator Milne, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs, presented its Tenth Report (Bill C-7, An Act in respect of criminal justice for young persons and to amend and repeal other Acts, with amendments).

(The Report is printed as an Appendix)

The Honourable Senator Milne moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Christensen, that the Report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Second reading of Bill C-40, An Act to correct certain anomalies, inconsistencies and errors and to deal with other matters of a non-controversial and uncomplicated nature in the Statutes of Canada and to repeal certain provisions that have expired, lapsed, or otherwise ceased to have effect.

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Hervieux-Payette, P.C., that the Bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Kinsella moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Stratton, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders No. 2 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Atkins, seconded by the Honourable Senator Keon, for the second reading of Bill S-30, An Act to amend the Canada Corporations Act (corporations sole).

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Kinsella moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Andreychuk, that the Bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders No. 2 to 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Kinsella, seconded by the Honourable Senator Murray, P.C., for the adoption of the Sixth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry (Bill S-22, An Act to provide for the recognition of the Canadien Horse as the national horse of Canada, with amendments), presented in the Senate on October 31, 2001.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Kinsella moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fairbairn, P.C., that the Bill, as amended, be read the third time now.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the third time and passed.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate have passed this Bill to which they desire their concurrence.

Orders No. 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Consideration of the Fourth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples entitled: Northern Parks — A New Way, tabled in the Senate on September 27, 2001.

Debate concluded.

Consideration of the Ninth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance (study on the role of the government in the financing of deferred maintenance costs in Canada's post-secondary institutions), tabled in the Senate on October 30, 2001.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Banks moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cools, that further debate on the consideration of the Report be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Order No. 6 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other

Order No. 54 (motion) was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Gauthier, seconded by the Honourable Senator Hubley:

That the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration be authorized to examine and report on the renewal of the television broadcasting agreement between the Senate and CPAC (the Cable Public Affairs Channel), so that it includes the subtitling of parliamentary debates authorized on television and that the renewal of this agreement follows up on CPAC's commitments concerning services to the hearing impaired.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders No. 82 (motion), 13 (inquiry), 81 (motion), 28 (inquiry), 41, 80 (motions), 16 (inquiry), 3 (motion), 18, 20 (inquiries), 65 (motion) 7, 6, 11, 10, 22, 23 (inquiries) and 73 (motion) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Maheu, seconded by the Honourable Senator Setlakwe:

That this House:

(a) Calls upon the Government of Canada to recognize the genocide of the Armenians and to condemn any attempt to deny or distort a historical truth as being anything less than genocide, a crime against humanity.

(b) Designates April 24th of every year hereafter throughout Canada as a day of remembrance of the 1.5 million Armenians who fell victim to the first genocide of the twentieth century.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Cools moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Watt, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Cools calling the attention of the Senate to the celebration of Black History Month in Canada, and the Canadian Bar Association of Ontario dinner in Toronto on February 1, 2001, at which she, as the keynote speaker, spoke to the topic A Room With a View: A Black Senator's View of the Canadian Senate.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Cools moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaPierre, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

INQUIRIES

The Honourable Senator De Bané, P.C., called the attention of the Senate to his recommendation for ending the atrocious cycle of violence raging now in the Middle East.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Finestone, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Taylor, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Lapointe called the attention of the Senate to the time allocated to tributes.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., for the Honourable Senator Bacon moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Milne, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Wiebe for the Honourable Senator Gustafson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Banks:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry have the power to sit at 3:30 p.m. on Tuesday, November 20, 2001, to hear from Ambassador Danièle Smadja, Head of the European Commission in Canada, even though the Senate may then be sitting, and that Rule 95(4) be suspended in relation thereto.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

With leave,

The Senate reverted to Government Notices of Motions.

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Graham, P.C.:

That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 2:00 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Report of the British Columbia Treaty Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the British Columbia Treaty Commission Act, S.C. 1995, c. 45, sbs. 21(3).—Sessional Paper No. 1/37-562.

Statutes of the Yukon for March 2001, pursuant to the Yukon Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. Y-2, sbs. 22(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/37-563.

Statutes of the Northwest Territories for June 2001, pursuant to the Northwest Territories Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. N-22, sbs. 21(1). —Sessional Paper No. 1/37-564.

Performance Reports for the period ended March 31, 2001:

Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada

Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Canada Customs and Revenue Agency

Canada Economic Development for Quebec Relations

Canada Industrial Relations Board

Canada Information Office

Canadian Artists and Producers Professional Relations Tribunal

Canadian Centre for Management Development

Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety

Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency

Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Canadian Grain Commission

Canadian Heritage

Canadian Human Rights Commission

Canadian Human Rights Tribunal

Canadian Institutes of Health Research

Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat

Canadian International Development Agency

Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission

Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission

Canadian Space Agency

Canadian Transportation Agency

Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Civil Aviation Tribunal of Canada

Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP

Competition Tribunal

Copyright Board Canada

Correctional Service Canada

Department of Finance Canada

Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade

Department of Justice Canada

Environment Canada

Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Hazardous Material Information Review Commission Canada

Health Canada

Human Resources Development Canada

Immigration and Refugee Board

Indian and Northern Affairs Canada and Canadian Polar Commission

Industry Canada

Law Commission of Canada

Leadership Network, The

Millennium Bureau of Canada

NAFTA Secretariat, Canadian Section

National Archives of Canada

National Battlefields Commission

National Defence

National Energy Board

National Film Board

National Library of Canada

National Parole Board

National Research Council Canada

National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy

Natural Resources Canada

Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada

Northern Pipeline Agency Canada

Office of the Auditor General of Canada

Office of the Chief Electoral Officer

Office of the Commission for Federal Judicial Affairs

Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Office of the Correctional Investigator

Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions Canada

Offices of the Information and Privacy Commissioners

Parks Canada

Patented Medicine Prices Review Board Canada

Privy Council Office

Public Service Commission of Canada

Public Service Staff Relations Board

Public Works and Government Services Canada

Registry of the Federal Court of Canada

Royal Canadian Mounted Police

RCMP External Review Committee

Security Intelligence Review Committee

Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada

Solicitor General Canada

Statistics Canada

Status of Women Canada

Supreme Court of Canada

Tax Court of Canada

Transport Canada

Transportation Safety Board of Canada

Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat

Veterans Affairs Canada

Western Economic Diversification Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/37-565.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C.:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 4:40 p.m. the Senate was continued until Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 2:00 p.m..)

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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages

The names of the Honourable Senators Maheu, Léger and Setlakwe substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Finestone, Day and De Bané (November 7).

Standing Senate Committee on Fisheries

The name of the Honourable Senator Jaffer substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Ferretti Barth (November 7).

Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources

The name of the Honourable Senator Kenny substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Moore (November 7).

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